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Saturday, 29 December 2012

The four levels of MGTOW - betas shrug.

A quick definition of MGTOW - an introductory piece.

Back to basics

Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW, individually Man Going His Own Way, or MGHOW)

Unlike Men's Rights Activists (MRAs), there is no necessity that MGTOWs engage in political activity or activism. MGTOWs may be active MRAs, they may cheer them on from the sidelines and send in donations or support, or they may not be politically active at all. There is a common point of awareness between various groups in the manosphere such as MRAs, MGTOWs, pick-up artists (PUAs) and reactionaries, yet how they react to the red pill differs considerably.

What MGTOW are not


Typical conservatives (neocons, socons, tradcons) are seen not just by MGTOWs, but the entire manosphere as nowhere near on our side. MRAs and MGTOWs identify conservatives as not so different from the feminists when it comes to misandry (to be examined later), but let's just say that the Bradley Amendment was passed by the conservatives in the name of "defending the family". PUAs take little notice of conservatives except for "Sunday morning nightclub", where they go to pick up "reformed sluts" looking for future beta provisioning, and reactionaries call the state of today's Christianity "Churchianity" and identify how feminism has seeped into tradcon thought to the point where they just call conservatives "pro-life feminists".

So no, the typical accusation levelled at the inhabitants of the manosphere that we're all just white male rednecks scared of losing our privilege and power holds no water, considering that we're not all even from the US of A in the first place, we're not all male (although admittedly overwhelmingly so), and most of us don't want any truck to do with the cons in their current state.

If anything, by their nature, MGTOWs are pretty far from what the tradcons want with their "family values" nonsense, otherwise they wouldn't be urging us to man up, shut up, and put up with our lot. Conservatives are no more automatically less misandric than anyone with a penis is.

But surely anyone speaking out or boycotting the status quo is a either a mustache-twirling, top-hatted misogynist sitting in his patriarchal volcano base while cackling madly, or a mindless brainwashed woman who can't see the light and needs to be re-educated properly.



The other accusation levelled at MGTOWs is that we're bitter and suffering from sour grapes, that we're not good relationship material anyway, but oddly enough, a number of us come out of relationships. Then that opens the NAWALT/you've been burned argument, which then lets us point at those MGTOWs who never played in the first place. What gives?

Or perhaps it's just that MGTOWs are crunching the numbers and settling for freedom instead of their hopes and dreams, which will remain just that. Perhaps MGTOWs are taking the path of least resistance by dropping out of the game together (it is a point of contention with PUAs), but looking at the forces arrayed against them, who can really blame them for not wanting the play the game considering those risks?

Why MGTOW cannot be stopped

MGTOW is not a movement in the way that modern -isms are in the sense that there are no institutions, that there is no established organisation or hierachy of individuals dictating from up on high. It's true that there are a number of individuals spreading the message, but by and large the growth of MGTOW is fuelled by men looking at the figures, observing other men who've been put through the machine, and making the decision on their own to abscond from the plantation. This is proven by the sheer number of men coming to MRA and MGTOW sites and stating that they had come to the conclusions independently, and had discovered the manosphere after the fact, when they were looking for like-minded individuals on the internet.

For this reason, MGTOW is impossible to stop so long as the reasons for men to GTOW exist. There is no head for lawsuits to be aimed at, there is no activist leader to be jailed, there is no organisation to shatter. MGTOW benefits from the virtues of a disorganised resistance, and hence is quite eminently impervious to the usual take-down methods employed by those who would silence uncomfortable social movements. The only way for a state to attempt to deal with MGTOW is a host of increasingly punitive measures against men in general for refusing to participate, at which even the most blue-pill man is dangerously aware of knowing that the jig is up - this will be examined in further detail in a subsequent section.

A comment on CH:

"Things will radicalize organically. That’s one thing the manosphere is getting right. It is fighting an asymmetric war. Who is the leader of the manosphere? Roissey? Rollo? Roosh? Elam? Price? Dalrock? WHo do they have to shoot to get it to end? Every time a Bskillet dies a 3M is there to take his place. Mentu and Ashur went quiet but now we have Danny from 504. We have diversity. Roosh tells you how to bang, Dalrock how to marry, Pvt Man how to date. I guarantee you, you don’t need to tell the manosphere when to radicalize. The manosphere is not a club, an organization, a party. It is a living cell. It duplicates on its own. It expands on its own. It is open source. One guy has an idea and three more expand upon it, taking it to new places the originator could not have dreamed of. How may posts on other sites did 3M’s Incel manifesto spawn? How many men had how many discussions where further new ideas were born?

I gotta tell you, if this was a shooting war, I’d hate to be the general sent in to crush the manosphere. Asymmetrical forces are a hard nut to crack. The femifascists will have some successes but monolithic forces have a very hard time with these sorts of battles."

The four levels of MGTOW

In my observations (and practice) of MGTOW, I have taken note of a number of levels in which broad categories of MGTOWs may reside in. While Christians may vary widely in scope and status, they all revolve around a single idea: the birth and ressurrection of Christ. Similarly, feminists may claim to be wide in scope, but their ideas are all informed by one common rotten root: patriarchy theory. In the same vein, while MGTOWs may put into practice their ideas and concepts to differing extents, there lies one unifying idea that defines a MGTOW:

The recognition of the way modern society really works when it comes to the sexes, and a refusal to buy into and feed the system.

Note that this is hardly as neatly defined an idea as, say, the birth and resurrection of Christ, but it is what it is. It would be laborious for me to rehash why things are the way they are today (hypergamy, 80/20 rule, white knighting, Briffault's Law, et al) when other manosphere authors have gone over these topics over and over again, so I won't.

My reason for putting MGTOW into "levels" is not to suggest that there is an inevitable progression from one level to the next; there are many men who look at the situation and decide what hazards they're comfortable with dealing with, and then stay at that level, or move up or down as the situation befits. Nevertheless, my separation into levels is representative of the escalation of a MGTOW's increasing withdrawal from society at large and increasing starvation of the beast. It is difficult, but not impossible for a MGTOW to progress from one level to another without at least taking in part ideas and concepts from the previous level: while, for example, Cappy Cap still enjoys short-term relationships with women, he also particpates in economic disengagement.

Without further ado, the four levels of MGTOW:

Level 0: Situational awareness

This level includes men who are aware of the realities that face them in society, and yet deem the risks acceptable to have a go at playing the game. I will only touch briefly on this group, as there are not many of these around, and for good reason - the odds stacked against men having the white picket fence deal are still too bloody high. For the first time in a long while, men are having to filter women based on their ability to shrug off constant bombardment by society to give in to their hypergamous natures (and the same bombardment repeatedly chastises and criminalises mens' polygamous natures) and adjustment still has to take place, which may not happen before society at large collapses (yes, I'm that pessimistic).

Yet there are still some who seem to be content, if not happy. Men in this group may take precautions to keep what they have, such as learning game or through other methods (for example, Keoni Galt has made it clear in no uncertain terms that if his wife does try to pull him through the divorce meat grinder, he will pull out all stops and enact mutually assured destruction just short of actual violence) to minimise the risks as far as possible while still having a hand in play.

Which is why I do not consider this a level per se. Even though men in this group are aware of what they face, they do not reject any aspects of society because of their knowledge, which is necessary; pick-up artists, reactionaries and men's rights activists are also possessed of this knowledge, but their reactions to it are different. This is miles better than being a bumbling blue-pill average frustrated chump wallowing in propoganda and programming, of course, but does not truly fit the MGTOW label as has been put forth.

Level 1: Rejection of long-term relationships

Short brief: the MGTOW rejects all form of long-term personal relationships with women, including but not limited to marriage, cohabitation of any sort which might be classified as common-law marriage, picking up for a single mother's children, or any action which might be used in court to turn him into her legal indentured servant.

Common reasons for this:
a) Massive risk incurred by men in pursuing this course of action in the form of chilamony and frivorce theft, draconian domestic violence laws that follow the Duluth Model, being robbed of their children and having them alienated, all for no perceptible reason other than societal pressure and conditioning.

Resources withdrawn from society:
a) Intimacy and commitment that women desire, temporary or otherwise.
b) State-supported wealth transfers from men to women via the divorce, child support and domestic violence industries.

You may have heard of the marriage strike, in which large numbers of men are boycotting this rotten institution - either consciously or unconsciously, it does not matter. They're still out. A simple look through the manosphere wll turn up huge numbers of stories about men and children thrown through the family court meat grinder.

The effects of the marriage strike are interesting, and not just in the "where have all the good men gone?" "you're a sexist bastard if you don't have the hots for used-up sluts" and "man up and marry those single mothers like a good Christian man" articles. Men in general are leaving the plantation in droves - Dalrock has some interesting stats on remarriage and never-marrieds, and the stats do appear to be in line with many men adopting the stance.

As GirlWritesWhat points out in one of her videos: "We have soured the deal for men."

And she's right. As things stand today, there is no reason for men to get married whatsoever. Women have no legal or social obligations to men, and yet men are expected to carry all the traditional obligations while labouring at the same time under progressive ones.

So, they ask themselves. Why bother?


There is no reason for a man to get married today, ever. Why have children when they can be ripped from you at a moment's notice, and you'll never see them again? Besides, with surrogacy a man need not even get married to have one on his own terms - one example would be the Rotunda Clinic in India, which will for the price of US$20,000 do all the dirty work of hiring a surrogate for a man and give him a child with his own genes. Love, intimacy and companionship? One doesn't need to get married for that, even if one actually finds a suitable partner. Sex? Rollo Tomassi estimates that while game won't get an omega a hb7 or 8, he might be able to pull in a 4 to 6, which is just as well thanks to today's culture.

The only reason blue-pill men continue buying into the claptrap and feeding themselves to the meat grinder is that that's how it's always been done, that they're still feeding into the white picket fence dream.

The dream which doesn't exist any more.

When young men look up and see their predecessors hanging from the rafters, bullet holes in their skulls and as piles of ashes in before the steps of family courts, is there any wonder they are walking away?

Level 2: Rejection of short-term relationships

Short brief: the MGTOW rejects all form of personal relationships with women, including dating, one-night stands, friendships, etc. Any contact with unfamiliar women is kept strictly professional and at a minimum.

Common reasons for this:
a) Inane laws that govern the treatment of sexually-charged crimes such as rape or sexual assault compared with, say, murder or theft. Rights stemming from due process such as the right to face one's accuser (rape shield laws), the right to be considered innocent before found guilty (dear colleague letter, hanging in the court of the public, repeated calls for less evidence to be required for guilt, activist groups pushing for guilty verdicts irrespective of actual evidence).
b) The broadening of the definitions of these crimes to encompass a widening set of behaviour, to the point that post-coital buyer's regret can be considered rape.
c) The heaping of culpability upon men and the concurrent removal of culpability from women for their actions (such as sex when both parties are drunk).

Resources withdrawn from society:
a) Beta orbiter benefits to women. (Chivalry, etc.)
b) Greater loss of intimacy and romantic prospects for women.
c) A general growing indifference by MGTOWs to women (and an observable trend from men in general, too). Hate is not the antithesis of love, because it still implies the one doing the hating still cares to some extent about the hated. The indifferent merely ignores all of this.

To begin with, let's start from a comment found on Sunshine Mary's blog:

"Our entire social structure is designed to support women’s living any way they want.

Employers are required to follow a host of laws addressed to women in the workplace: anti discrimination in hiring, work assignments, work practices, workplace accommodations, and facilities. Anti sex harassment laws with insanely punitive consequences for men and insane definitions of “sexual harassment” (being defined as sexual conduct by unattractive men and any conduct by anyone that any woman doesn’t like). FMLA for childbirth and maternity leave. 

Women are allowed to do and say anything they want anywhere. Men are restricted in their speech and conduct. VAWA, which has a “must arrest” policy in a domestic violence call. Women can assault and beat men in public with impunity and the tacit support of feminists. 

There are new social customs to constrain most men. A man is forbidden to notice an attractive woman at work. He is not to comment on it, talk about it or even look a second or two too long. Nuclear rejections, public shaming are the norm if a man she deems unattractive deigns to talk to her in public. Men are never, ever to even notice good looking women. Older men are shamed from dating or having sex with younger women, and are shamed into dating women “more their age” for the specific purpose of providing men for lonely middle aged unattractive battle axe divorcees. Men are never, ever to comment on or appreciate a woman’s physical appearance, or compare an attractive woman to an unattractive woman.

Attractive men are exempt from all of these legal and social conventions."

Attractive men, of course, meaning alphas. For betas and omegas, the reality of life is stark. Interaction with women is potentially toxic and dangerous to men, thanks to the way laws regarding relations between men and women have been set up that almost unilaterally follow the Duluth Model, which assumes male perpetration and female victimhood.

When women are allowed to get away with light sentences for genitally mutiliating their husbands,  when they lie about rape just to win $10,000 in a radio talk show, to avoid trouble for coming home late, so on and so forth, when up to 41% of rape accusations may be false - why bother? When a man can get in trouble and have his life ruined and forever tainted on a single woman's word and society will howl for his blood, it's not hard to see why some men might very well decide the risk isn't worth the reward and disconnect from women altogether unless absolutely necessary.

Indeed, it would appear that many young men (and sometimes women) are getting sick and fed up with the way things are, and the men are absconding altogether. AVFM radio has had boys of 13 and girls of 14 calling into the show to share their lives and observations on misandry. When people are waking up from the matrix programming from a younger and younger age and saying "fuck you" to it, what can the only end result be?

Level 3: Economic disengagement

Short brief: the MGTOW refuses to produce more than is strictly necessary for his individual survival. He will do as much work off the books as possible to avoid taxation, and will endeavour to remain in the lowest tax bracket possible without jeopardising his way of life and acceptable standard of living.

Common reasons for this:
a) Lack of desire to produce due to being denied a meaningful and socially accepted path to respect within the grasp of the everyday beta man.
b) Refusal to pay into confiscatory wealth transfers from productive beta men to other groups via the state. The amount paid into taxation vs the amount of benefits received from the state is one example of this.

Resources withdrawn from society:
a) Economic production falls drastically as beta men refuse to be more than self-sufficient.
b) Taxation revenue falls drastically as beta men stop producing, resulting in greater debt and borrowing required to maintain government spending.

In Esther Vilar's work The Manipulated Man, she posits the following theory as to why traditionalism, interestingly, does not solely restrict the sexual natures of women as feminists claim, but also the sexual natures of men. Her theory, from what I remember from reading the book, goes like this:

*Men have three states: they are capable of great destruction, great creation, or great hedonism.
*For obvious reasons, we do not want destruction, but men will snap under pressure or participate in it for a cause.
*Most men, however, will default to hedonism, since it requires the least effort. This results in what detractors call "Peter Pan syndrome".
*In order to get men to produce, there are three methods that have been tried throughout history: forced production (I.E. slavery), restricting access to resources, and giving them a family.
*Slavery requires enforcement by other men, which in turn shifts the problem: how do the elite alphas convince the enforcers to comply? One way of doing this was to entice the enforcers with women who were attractive but not so enough for the alphas, but that does not solve the problem of slavery meaning that men will take every opportunity to underperform.
*Restriction of access to resources does not work very well because most men do not require large amounts of resources to be content. Food, shelter, and a source of entertainment is usually enough to satiate most men, leading to the stereotypical bachelor pad. Consumption in the modern world today is driven overwhelmingly by women (80-91%, depending on which economist you ask), so men producing enough to support themselves is insufficient to meet the needs of civilisation.
*Hence, there is a need to give a man a family to incentivise him to create. Enter traditional monogamous marriage, in which a man must give up his instinctive polygamous desires to settle for more reliably-provided sex with his wife.
*However, men do not have the certainty of paternity that women do of maternity. In lean times (most of human history), both men and women will tend to look after their own first, but as stated, men do not have that certainty.
*Hence, womens' hypergamous natures must be curtailed in order to allow men the assurance of paternity of their children. The sexual natures of women are curtailed only as a secondary measure to the primary motive of curtailing male sexual nature.
*With a family that he knows is undoubtedly his to work for, men produce to their maximum capacity and build civilisation.

Knowing this, remove a man's family from him, and he no longer has any incentive to produce. This is why chilamony is so important to the state - enforced by the long arm of the law, he is required to continue producing even though the joys of his family are no longer open to him. And today, Pimp Daddy Government has replaced the husband as the ultimate alpha that no single man can compete with, confiscating resources from men and using them to buy votes from women - a simple breakdown of which demographic puts in/receives more from welfare programs, taxes and government handouts, other things being equal, will quickly show this. Even the mainstream media has finally begun to pick up on this: "men dropping out of the workforce -  going hunting, fishing."

Men will jump through all sorts of hoops to get sex, but even they have their limits as to the crap they will put up with - and for many, the shit is overflowing. Without the hope of getting a family due to the dangerous climate of the sexual marketplace, the fact that being good providers is no longer a viable mating strategy, and that the alphas build soft harems of their own, the majority of beta men return to hedonism and stop production. This is an observable effect in Japan's "grass-eating youths", which 60% of young men between the ages of 20-35 self-identify themselves as. They stop wanting to climb the corporate ladder, they stop working hard, and instead produce just enough to get by and pursue their own hobbies and interests on their spare time.

This is what Paul Elam meant when he said: "Ladies, be afraid when men stop thinking with their dicks."

The Japanese government is terrified of this demographic in their already sinking economy. (See in one of my previous posts: the handsome tax) This step is when MGTOW moves out of the sphere of the personal and begins to catch the eye of the political, with reactions that will be discussed shortly later. Sometimes, the decision to disengage economically will be a conscious decision to do so, other times not so much. In the end, though, it all boils down to the fact that they aren't cranking out the tax dollars like they used to, much to the worry of many governments.

The idea is neatly summed up in Typhonblue's parable of the princess and the plough horse, in which she makes clear the essence of MGTOW, traditionalism, and the shift between the two. A small, yet powerful snippet from the parable:

"‘Stupid horse, I let you wear this bridle, but it was always mine. I just used it to control you! And look what you did! You were supposed to live for my needs, but you saved the best in this world for yourself!’ She pulled the bridle from the horse’s head. It turned back into crackled leather and rusted iron in her hands.

She stared at it, dumbstruck, and so did the horse.

Once the horse saw the bridle for what it was, old, worn—and above all, a bridle—his demeanor changed instantly. He reared up, pawing the air with his great hooves. In her haste to get out of the stall and away from him, the princess dropped the bridle.

The stallion turned his head to the stable door. The door was open. In her greed for the bridle, the princess had forgotten to secure it. The stallion’s nostrils flared, catching the scent of long night runs, open water and wild grasses.

He bolted through the open stable door, trampling the bridle to pieces in his escape.

The horse gone, the princess looked at the cracked leather bridle now laying broken on the ground. Off the horse’s head the magic was gone—there was nothing left in the bridle to want—and she felt a dawning horror as she finally understood her mother’s warning. The bridle’s only real worth was its ability to control the plow horse, and she had lost its magic forever."

Level 4: Societal rejection

Short brief: the MGTOW drops out of society altogether. He minimises contact with the blue-pill world and seeks to further his own ends on his own terms. For all intents and purposes, he does not exist. A urbanite might keep to his own apartment, while someone further out may simply head into the wilderness and go off-grid.

Common reasons for this:
a) Disillusionment and disdain for modern society.
b) An understanding of how modern society works, and a desire to protect oneself.

Resources withdrawn from society:
a) Anything that remains after levels 1, 2, and 3 have been enacted, due to the MGTOW practically vanishing.

Known as "going ghost" within the MGTOW community, the most extreme form of MGTOW is to reject a misandric society and drop out altogether. This level of MGTOW, at least in my observation, is the only one which strictly requires a conscious effort and decision on the part of the MGTOW - many men simply drift into stages 1 and 2, but a complete cloistering of oneself from society at large requires some level of understanding as to how the world really works.

In this level, the MGTOW interacts with society only as much as is required for him to survive. Unfamiliar people - men and women - are avoided, and contact, such as that which is required for him due to employment, is kept clean, public and strictly professional. This does not mean seclusion - MGTOWs in this level may have groups of friends whom they may share interests and activities with, but by and large they do not exist.

The minimalist lifestyle of level 3 is still in effect; the MGTOW may still work off the books for cash or barter, and will do his best to avoid paying taxes as much as possible. Less scrupulous MGTOWs may decide to bleed the system and hasten the collapse by sucking the system for all the benefits they can obtain. For all societal intents and purposes, the MGTOW is considered dead or non-existent - hence the term "going ghost".

Alternatively, the MGTOW may opt to leave society altogether and seek greener pastures. This is happening not just in the US of A, but in extremely high numbers in highly misandric countries such as Sweden. Whether it is self-imposed spiritual or physical exile, the end result is the same: one less worker drone paying into the system, one less card in the base of the house.

Reactions to MGTOW

History repeats itself

Interestingly, this is not the first time the MGTOW phenomenon has manifested itself. Similar conditions were found during near the end of the Roman Empire, when patrician men were refusing to marry the women of the time, for much the same reasons that MGTOWs are not today. Caesar Augustus slapped a bachelor tax on men in order to try and get them to breed, in order to get bodies to fill the roles that the patrician class were expected to fill (such as in the army).

It didn't work. Bachelors paid the tax and just went on their merry way.

Bachelor taxes have been tried too through various points in history, including the UK, Turkey, and even Colonial America., so why should they stop now? Indeed, now with news of Japan's proposed "handsome tax" and Sweden's "man tax", it seems that history will repeat itself.

And since the idiots who run these sanatariums know nothing of learning from history, as the Roman citizens absconded to self-sufficient germanic barbarian estates to avoid the increasingly punitive taxes and laws, so shall men abscond to countries perceived as more male-friendly. It's not a prediction, it's already happening.

Current situation

Thankfully, women in general are not completely blind. Even though most non red-pill women don't understand the cause, they are certainly feeling the effects of MGTOW - which is why we have all these "where have all the good men gone?" pieces from the left, and "why is chivalry dead?" pieces from the right. The benefits are drying up like thin spit on a hot stove, and it's off to Pimp Daddy Government with more cries of "gimmedat!" as evidenced by the recent election.

Recently, Suzanne Venker wrote an opinion piece titled "The War on Men". Dalrock has carefully taken it apart and proven that it's nothing but toeing the usual tradcon party line on how we men are supposed to be good little traditional wage earners and try and buy back into the white picket fence dream - which no longer exists.

Fuck that. Even before I fully decided to turn MGTOW, I like to think I saw women as more than their reproductive organs, and if I'm going to do my share in any personal relationship she'd better be doing more than just selling access to her pussy, or else she's no more than a whore. Should I feel entitled for selling access to my sperm or my bank account?

The tradcons want traditional gender roles for men...but not for women, and prove themselves worthy of the label "pro-life feminists". As to why I'm quoting reactionaries as sources for this tradcon phemomenon...well, they're the ones who've got their eye most on this.

I'm planning to invest in cat food companies.

Some ladies, of course, at least are the exceptions that prove the NAWALT rule and are more honest about the situation. SunshineMary had this to say:

"When I first began reading on sites concerned with men’s issues, I did not understand the “Men Going Their Own Way” (MGTOW) concept.  To be honest, I found the idea a little bit threatening and kind of scary.  As a non-feminist, I fully understand that women are very dependent on men, even if it’s just Big Daddy government.  If large numbers of men bail out, women are in serious trouble.  This is scary for a woman to contemplate if she is honest with herself and drops the false bravado for a moment.  My knee jerk reaction was that men should not “go their own way”; they should continue to take care of women but just somehow make women behave with gratitude and humility.

However, as I have spent some time on sites like Dalrock, I have had the opportunity to read more personal anecdotes about decent Christian men whose wives divorced them due to congenital discontentedness, destroying their husbands’ and children’s lives in the process.  Some of these stories are truly heart-breaking, but I’ve learned never to express sympathy to these men; they don’t want sympathy.  They don’t want to be pitied.  What they wanted was for their ex-wives to honor the commitments they made about “until death do us part”.  That such behavior is perpetrated against these men not by supposed feminists but by women who are ostensibly Christian women, who ought to be about the business of the Lord, makes it particularly galling."

"Men will not want to put that yoke back on even if it is offered to them.

I don’t know this for sure.  Maybe they will.  Personally, I wouldn’t want to, at least not for a bunch of useless, ungrateful, nagging, slutty, overweight, entitled, self-centered, ill-tempered grumblers, by which I mean a large percentage of American women.  Maybe somehow women can bring enough to the table to coax men into taking charge again, but I’m not sure what that would be; they might want to read my bl*w j*b tip, which by the way I’ve updated after rigorous scientific testing."


So what now? Knowing all this, can the MGTOW lifestyle survive indefinitely as a safe haven for men?

This, unfortunately, is unlikely.

Stu from AVFM had this to say:

"Let me tell you what happens when men just adopt a MGTOW lifestyle, or avoid the potholes and just go on with life. Remember when things started to get really crappy for marriage, and men just started to say, well, ok, I wont get married, I’ll just live together? They change the law so that living together is legally the same as being married.

So, next, you don’t live with a woman, you just have a girlfriend. Then they change the law so that long term relationships qualify too. And on it goes, until you have ridiculous laws like Australia’s “Mistress Law”, where even a married man, with kids, who has an affair on the side, leaves his assets open to being accessed by the other woman. Ok, so nothing but the shortest flings and one night stands from now on. Do you think they are going to leave it there? We can all not have anything to do with women at all, and they will demand the state find a way to extract those resources from us, and give it to them. Sweden has had two tries at a man tax...they will pass it eventually.

It’s not just in personal relationships, anyway. False allegations, discrimination in schools, jobs, etc. You can’t rule out working with women, or being with them in a train, or lift, or bus, or pub, or in the line at Macca’s. Whatever safe house, or piece of ground you are standing on now that you think is yours, they will come for it. And if the only answer to that from you is that you will retreat to higher and higher ground, then you will have nowhere to run in the end. You have to fight back. There is nowhere safe. There is no line drawn that you can cross where they can’t come after you. 

When enough men are doing whatever you are doing to deprive women and the state of your assets and income, that is the trigger for the next round of draconian laws to regain access to it. This is exactly why we are in this shit hole now, because men just looked after number one, and tried to solve only their particular problem at the time. They just keep coming, and men just keep giving up ground and running."

Slavery certainly is one possibility. The other is complete and utter societal and economic collapse as beta men realise that both the alphas and their little harems have screwed them over. Social programming can only go so far. Shaming can only go so far. The betas and omegas are noticing.

And then they shrug. Whether it means another Dark Ages for humanity like when it happened in Roman times, I don't know. I like modern conveniences with the lights on and water running, but the end seems inevitable at this point; we are laying the foundations for what is hopefully not another cycle of prosperity leading to degeneracy and despair, but a straight path out of this mess. Would humanity learn from its mistakes.

And this has been repeatedly warned about by everyone in the know.

It's interesting how a lot of predictions made by individuals within the androsphere/manosphere have come true. Back in 2004, Angry Harry predicted in his piece "organisms" that an enormous "male brain" would arise from the consciousness of "men-who-sit-at-screens". Such an organism would have no real head and no single mastermind leading it, and yet like neurons coming together to form a brain, have a direction and purpose gathered from the collective efforts of all those who entered into it.

Today, we have...well, we have what we have; you can see it for yourself.

An unmagnetised piece of iron is comprised of many tiny domains, each magnets in their own right. However, they are randomised and unruly, and produce no net magnetic field as they cancel out each other. Observable magnetic force only arises when all the domains are aligned in the same orientation.

And as rulers of regimes during revolutions can tell you, beta men are much the same way.

Cappy Cap leaves us with this post:

"We are not a fad or a fashionable movement.  We are not a "faux-crusader" hobby for people too lazy to work at anything (going green, PETA, veganism, etc.)  We are a backlash against the biggest psycho-social atrocity foisted upon a people.  You destroyed our lives, our country, our economy and our people.  And without those things in our lives, we have nothing else to do but exact our toll of revenge."

From Glorious Bastard:

"Look, I could go all day!  It is the end of the day, and you are running out of others' money; and you have run out of your men’s patience!  However, you will not see the anger outside of the redness of our faces.  You are physically secure from harm; for now, until your violent brood of fatherless “youth” turn on you and all of us.  We will defend ourselves, but not you!  This is a trap.

You don’t see it, do you?  The fact that men are now indifferent means that you will now have to earn your keep.  Your rejection of your men, will now lead to their rejection of you.

You only matter in your mind; your sex is nothing to save you.  You are merely being replaced, can you feel that?

Of course not, and that is the point!  I truly desire to give you everything you asked for; it just may not be what you want.

You have failed.

Good day, and good riddance.  I don’t want to harm you, just send you away."

And from Rollo Tomassi:

"I will be nobody’s fucking slave and nobody’s fool.

You owe nobody anything. You owe women nothing. You owe society nothing. All of those things, those forces, those structures wish to impose a slavery on you and you need begin to reject it right now. You need redefine to yourself, “What it means to be a man.” And you need to begin to live that declaration of what it could, should, and would to be a man if you filter that determination with the first filter.

I will be nobody’s slave and nobody’s fool.

We will stop being men that are useful to women, useful to society and start being men that live life on their terms. You have a power that you give away. We voluntarily let chains be placed on us because we think that is what “The Good Man” does.

Re-evaluate everything."

The betas will shrug.

The chips will fall.


  1. Great introduction to mgtow. You have good writing skills. Would it be ok to repost this text with link to your website at MGTOW.COM?

  2. Just found this today - got a few people hitting my own blog from it so I thought I'd check it out. Dig the article, it's one of the most thorough explanations of MGTOW I've seen so far. Hilariously, just read the Glorious Bastard post you linked today as well when I caught up on Shining Pearls of Something's blog.

    Anyways, gonna show some link love to each of those, cause they're good stuff.

    Oh, and you should let people comment by name/website. I hate having to go through wordpress option - blogspot just hates us wordpress users; or maybe its my computer.

  3. Great article; although I am not sure if it would be better in parts or as is? Other than that I loved it. The more of these we have the better. As you can see, the searches are starting to pick us up more, and we are starting to become a force.

    We have not been able to take down a high level politician yet, but it is coming.

    As always, I appreciate the linkage.

    Take care brother.

  4. Great article man.
    I really like how you brought up just about everything I hear. Particually grating, is the NAWALT, really hate that one.

    Also, I kind of hate how some red-pill, especially cheateau hertise, endlessly hate on MGTOW, its like WTH we are on the same side. Oh well.

  5. Re-read this article, its good.

  6. Interesting, enjoyable and very comprehensive breakdown of MGTOW.
    Well done.